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I've noticed with the past few subjects here on this Tribe have been toward clothing. I know that in my artwork, as well as in my *ahem* personal time, that what a guy wears and the various states of partial undress really lends itself to a narrative/scene/etc.
I was wondering about your thoughts and opinions on this being the curious bastard that I am. Discuss :)
I was wondering about your thoughts and opinions on this being the curious bastard that I am. Discuss :)
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Re: Clothing as Kink
Sat, October 22, 2005 - 11:55 PMI'm not really sure what you're asking, but I'm drunk so I'll throw my two cents in anyway. I have always been more interested in pictures of clothed (or at least partially clothed) guys than in pictures of naked guys. Clothing is language and label and context; in still pictures it adds a huge amount of information about the people involved that naked pics just can't convey. Haircuts, being something that people can intentionally choose about themselves, fall into the same category. And shared esthetics correlate well enough with potential friendship/intimacy that it's worked pretty well for me for years.
I dunno where I was going with this, I need a smoke. Maybe this was enough? Anyone know what I'm saying here? -
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Sun, October 23, 2005 - 12:02 AMThat's exactly what I'm saying. You hit the nail on the head there. It's the information that's given, the signals, the story... it's a reoccuring theme in my work and I think for the people who enjoy it there is some truth in that. I was wondering people's thoughts on the subject.
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Sun, October 23, 2005 - 10:34 AMAll else equal, I'd rather see pics of - or have sex with - guys who are as fully clothed as the action involved allows. My first and probably strongest kinks all center on clothing. I've got a friend who mocks my porn folder, saying "if it doesn't show genitalia, it ain't porn" - and a big fraction of the stuff I jerk off to doesn't show dicks or even have sexual acts.
The first thing I notice about a guy is his face, but the second is probably his shoes (or, better, boots) - I get preconceptions about people based on footwear all the time (not saying that's a good thing, but it's how I seem to be wired). My sexual tastes are pretty strongly connected to music subcultures, and clothing is something that people in those subcultures use to identify themselves to each other. Not always, and I'm not gonna consider someone "less punk" because he doesn't have the required number of studs in his jacket or whatever, but the association is frequent enough that it made some pathways in my brain. *This* is associated with *that*; *that* makes me horny, so now *this* makes me horny. Pure Pavlov.
Okay, I've got more to say on the subject - especially about the co-option of dress styles by gays - but I'd better do some apartment hunting while it's still office hours. More later. -
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Sun, October 23, 2005 - 12:16 PMabsolutely, what a fella dresses like tells part of the story of who he is, are the blue jeans 501s or 300 dollar designer jobs, band t-shirt or HRC polo? with us pervy rocker skin types of fags the significance of the clothes is intensified, the grain of the leather, the weight of the boots and whatever messages the boots send about blue collar, butch, leather, whatever it is for you and him. theres a purely aesthetic aspect, the excitement of more to be revealed, the feel of leather, denim, cotton, rubber. i tend to concentrate more on the social and cultural messages that are being communicated, skin punk anti-racist socialist... but those are all "fetishes" to me as well in a sense i reckon -
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Tue, October 25, 2005 - 8:08 AMi always notice the clothes and hair first (god thats shallow)
but i dont think it says anything about ones personality. ive met super flaming skttles dressed like lumber jacks, and prissy lookin bitches who could snap me in half. point, i wanna guy that can throw on a dirty ass white shirt and pair of plaid boxers and still be just as sexy as when we was all dolled up (thou he better still have his boots on)
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Tue, October 25, 2005 - 9:23 AMI always notice a face first. How they handle themselves. A laugh. What they're wearing and HOW they wear it.
Part of the fun of being with someone in my opinion was peeling of those layers of clothing, one...by.........one. -
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Tue, October 25, 2005 - 4:55 PMamen, thou i do like shearing there levis off
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Sat, October 29, 2005 - 9:38 PMI have a big suit/dress sock fetish .
So a man in a suit , or in various degrees of undress with suit pieces is an automatic hard on for me .
Had an ex who got very turned on by , and liked me being aggressive when , I was wearing only a wife beater . -
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Tue, November 1, 2005 - 1:41 PMi can understand that, specialy with you as a bed buddy. -
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Tue, November 1, 2005 - 6:26 PMThis is all part of the reason I like to create the illustrations that I make... finding out what makes other people tick, even if at first it seems very surface oriented, and in turn expanding my horizons.
That's one big reason. The other is porn isn't that great and I have needs. *smirk* -
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Wed, November 2, 2005 - 6:26 AMamen, thnks for bein there for our achin boners drub -
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Wed, November 2, 2005 - 6:40 AMi want storm trooper uniforms!!!
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Wed, November 2, 2005 - 6:42 AMA man after my own heart . Stormtrooper uniform , mmmmmmmmm -
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 6:03 AMI like to have sex in clothes, just everyday streat wear. -
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 7:29 AMcamo shorts, wife beaters, and boots are good fuck fatiuges -
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 9:25 AMi like to put my bro into cotton whites too small for him, make him wear em out, rip em off, twist em so theyre tighter, clothing as bondage equipment, tie the boots together, boots as ball weights, heh, theres my weekend plans in a nutshell -
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 9:52 PMare ball weights really clothing righteous ;) -
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Thu, November 3, 2005 - 10:21 PMI guess that all depends on what they are made out of. Boots as ball-weight are definitely fun for all those involved. Try it with a friend - Today! ;) -
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Fri, November 4, 2005 - 5:56 PMImaging is everything! Guess I'm just agreeing with previous posts, but the way a guy presents himself is the first foray into their mindset. You gotta own it though - posers are obvious, especially when you get a few personal messages under your belt! Guess I still look for a little "truth in advertising"... -
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Sat, November 5, 2005 - 10:27 AMi think image gives a small nod to ones personality, but its not everything. for fucks sake i could dress up like dennis the menace if i wanted what does that say about me? and dont get me started on the poser thing -
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Mon, November 7, 2005 - 1:08 PMi guess it is more about how my penis/subconscious has been conditioned, than the rationalization i gave in my first post. after all, i don't sit and reason through anything about a guy i see in clothes that turn me on; i just see him and get hard. -
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Tue, November 8, 2005 - 6:06 AMand i will admit that no matter how hot the guy, if he's wearin flip-flops i wont give him a second look. -
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Tue, November 8, 2005 - 6:57 AMflip flops are a deal breaker for me too, as are "designer" jeans, man purses and pleated khakis -
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Tue, November 8, 2005 - 9:51 AMpleated khakies as well as most other pleated trousers need to be burned at the stake. I wear flip flops to take out the garbage. that's it.
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Tue, November 8, 2005 - 4:46 PMOkay, I didn't really mean that Image is the be-all and the end-all! I really meant that it encompasses what you believe in. Yeah, maybe it's a nod in the right direction (or left). I've made some seemingly extreme choices, in trying to maintain my identity in the corporate world! -
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Tue, November 8, 2005 - 6:03 PMOh, Ironrash, you are so staunch!
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Tue, November 8, 2005 - 6:39 PMOh... and flip-flops aren't nearly as bad as the "socks w/ sandals" expression!
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Tue, November 8, 2005 - 6:41 PMFlip-flops are grounds for extermination and are the epitomy of laziness. Sandals, Tassle loafers, braided belts, pleated pants, up-turned collars on your polo shirt (they're baaAAAaaack!), frosted hair, cologne, sweaters around the neck instead of *on*, thugged out with bling, trucker hats, mop-tops when you aren't a mod - all get a big fat thumbs down. I don't care how hot, how hung, how good of a lay or how clever you are... I'm just not interested. -
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Tue, November 8, 2005 - 7:02 PMYes, how "contempor-gay"! BLAH!
Still, "socks w/sandals"? What-the-fuck? -
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Tue, November 8, 2005 - 10:38 PMyeah... I like socks and all, but that just looks like you got dressed in the dark. -
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Tue, November 8, 2005 - 10:46 PMSeattle is the home of socks with sandals .
I see it everyday here and I think ,
This would never happen on the east coast . -
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Wed, November 9, 2005 - 9:40 AMby far it happens much less on the East Coast. -
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Wed, November 9, 2005 - 8:37 PMI've seen it coast to coast and everywhere in between. It happens everywhere as people with bad taste don't congregate in any one place, they spread like herpes. -
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Thu, November 10, 2005 - 5:15 AMNH and VT are teva with wool sock heaven, lots of EMS types around there, not to mention all the dumb shit that goes on in boston
my little bro recently got a dickies coverall and we're havin some fun with that! -
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Thu, November 10, 2005 - 7:31 PMDickies coveralls and the 15" shorts are fuckin' great! They make quality clothing and they are very complimentary to a guy's form. -
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Thu, November 10, 2005 - 8:08 PMI don't even know where to get started with this topic as I have quite a few clothing and subculture fetishes: skinheads, punks, in btwn skin and punk, leathermen, rubbermen, bears, urban primitives and even goth boys and rivetheads can make me hard. I guess its just anything alternative to the mainstream for me. However, I do think whatever subcultures one fashions themselves after they should at least know something about that subculture. As to me there is nothing more annoying than posers who dress as skins and listen to nothing but dance... -
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Thu, November 10, 2005 - 8:20 PMTrue that!
I guess, when you boil it down, we are all in lust/love/fascinated by those who genuinely express themselves and wear it on their sleeves.
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Sat, November 12, 2005 - 6:29 AMunderstanable, i went kinda agro for no real reason.
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Thu, November 10, 2005 - 8:28 PMHottie punks in ska suits crank it up for me.
Shoes say a lot - if they're too clean they turn me off.
Usually clothes have to reflect some wear to really get my attention - and a guy can't look like he pulls out his "punk outfit" on Saturdays if he wants to be sexy to me. -
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Sat, November 12, 2005 - 6:33 AMi think the main thing is finding a sense of self in ones attire, im sure weve glazed thisissue like a doughnut. but look at me now im gonna say it. im helping!
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