Tribe.net. Local Connections $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#941b4e9a-95de-4022-b689-e5fcb68cbca7 2005-11-12T14:33:42Z 2005-11-12T14:33:42Z

i think the main thing is finding a sense of self in ones attire, im sure weve glazed thisissue like a doughnut. but look at me now im gonna say it. im helping!

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-12T14:33:42Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#ef585034-dc5d-43c1-8839-908868ecd31f 2005-11-12T14:29:34Z 2005-11-12T14:29:34Z

understanable, i went kinda agro for no real reason. SRRY

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-12T14:29:34Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#7545e48b-fb5d-4d14-8abf-f306c76076f9 2005-11-11T04:28:53Z 2005-11-11T04:28:53Z

Hottie punks in ska suits crank it up for me. Shoes say a lot - if they're too clean they turn me off. Usually clothes have to reflect some wear to really get my attention - and a guy can't look like he pulls out his "punk outfit" on Saturdays if he wants to be sexy to me.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-11T04:28:53Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#388112a3-b665-4ef4-802d-393d9979df3c 2005-11-11T04:20:08Z 2005-11-11T04:20:08Z

True that! I guess, when you boil it down, we are all in lust/love/fascinated by those who genuinely express themselves and wear it on their sleeves.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-11T04:20:08Z Bowen http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#ef25ae34-fcd9-4126-8eab-5dcf61c5db61 2005-11-11T04:08:32Z 2005-11-11T04:08:32Z

I don't even know where to get started with this topic as I have quite a few clothing and subculture fetishes: skinheads, punks, in btwn skin and punk, leathermen, rubbermen, bears, urban primitives and even goth boys and rivetheads can make me hard. I guess its just anything alternative to the mainstream for me. However, I do think whatever subcultures one fashions themselves after they should at least know something about that subculture. As to me there is nothing more annoying than posers who dress as skins and listen to nothing but dance...

Bowen 2005-11-11T04:08:32Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#338de646-914e-4f20-ba87-c2a1e3c1ee6b 2005-11-11T03:31:29Z 2005-11-11T03:31:29Z

Dickies coveralls and the 15" shorts are fuckin' great! They make quality clothing and they are very complimentary to a guy's form.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-11T03:31:29Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#787295c8-c2ba-4990-ad02-1b5bc0c01fa8 2005-11-10T15:21:21Z 2005-11-10T15:21:21Z

bad taste is universal, lol

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-10T15:21:21Z righteous http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#801745f9-d931-447f-86b5-57da13f7e223 2005-11-10T13:15:54Z 2005-11-10T13:15:54Z

NH and VT are teva with wool sock heaven, lots of EMS types around there, not to mention all the dumb shit that goes on in boston my little bro recently got a dickies coverall and we're havin some fun with that!

righteous 2005-11-10T13:15:54Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#224015a9-cffd-4369-bbcb-fc47aa6f2a77 2005-11-10T04:37:28Z 2005-11-10T04:37:28Z

I've seen it coast to coast and everywhere in between. It happens everywhere as people with bad taste don't congregate in any one place, they spread like herpes.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-10T04:37:28Z Erik http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#74760ea8-63ca-4fe1-b14d-a80c8a02920d 2005-11-09T17:40:12Z 2005-11-09T17:40:12Z

by far it happens much less on the East Coast.

Erik 2005-11-09T17:40:12Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#2a012d67-48bc-43be-8b05-a3f7806bc05b 2005-11-09T14:46:52Z 2005-11-09T14:46:52Z

wanna bet money on that one?

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-09T14:46:52Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#276367de-338f-40de-866f-d8183fd716c3 2005-11-09T06:46:46Z 2005-11-09T06:46:46Z

Seattle is the home of socks with sandals . I see it everyday here and I think , This would never happen on the east coast .

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-09T06:46:46Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#a24cd72f-ef47-42a4-a1c7-981915c90615 2005-11-09T06:38:47Z 2005-11-09T06:38:47Z

yeah... I like socks and all, but that just looks like you got dressed in the dark.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-09T06:38:47Z ironrash http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#28bcf294-6dd1-4ac6-b503-01074c624482 2005-11-09T03:02:37Z 2005-11-09T03:02:37Z

Yes, how "contempor-gay"! BLAH! Still, "socks w/sandals"? What-the-fuck?

ironrash 2005-11-09T03:02:37Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#3f6d4524-4e4d-491a-9651-db606616a530 2005-11-09T02:41:06Z 2005-11-09T02:41:06Z

Flip-flops are grounds for extermination and are the epitomy of laziness. Sandals, Tassle loafers, braided belts, pleated pants, up-turned collars on your polo shirt (they're baaAAAaaack!), frosted hair, cologne, sweaters around the neck instead of *on*, thugged out with bling, trucker hats, mop-tops when you aren't a mod - all get a big fat thumbs down. I don't care how hot, how hung, how good of a lay or how clever you are... I'm just not interested.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-09T02:41:06Z ironrash http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#2fd309f1-8d86-4dcb-962b-1008186e56e2 2005-11-09T02:39:10Z 2005-11-09T02:39:10Z

Oh... and flip-flops aren't nearly as bad as the "socks w/ sandals" expression!

ironrash 2005-11-09T02:39:10Z Erik http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#4ac30f36-5d34-45ad-8813-5ef644eb9793 2005-11-09T02:03:30Z 2005-11-09T02:03:30Z

Oh, Ironrash, you are so staunch! *lix*

Erik 2005-11-09T02:03:30Z ironrash http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#0fa8d9ae-665f-463d-b1eb-1aa2643ffea0 2005-11-09T00:46:21Z 2005-11-09T00:46:21Z

Okay, I didn't really mean that Image is the be-all and the end-all! I really meant that it encompasses what you believe in. Yeah, maybe it's a nod in the right direction (or left). I've made some seemingly extreme choices, in trying to maintain my identity in the corporate world!

ironrash 2005-11-09T00:46:21Z Erik http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#b275f393-cbc4-410b-9269-b8bfbe7737e8 2005-11-08T17:51:57Z 2005-11-08T17:51:57Z

pleated khakies as well as most other pleated trousers need to be burned at the stake. I wear flip flops to take out the garbage. that's it.

Erik 2005-11-08T17:51:57Z righteous http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#88233256-d780-4c7f-abdc-b37bd8ec3c4d 2005-11-08T14:57:32Z 2005-11-08T14:57:32Z

flip flops are a deal breaker for me too, as are "designer" jeans, man purses and pleated khakis

righteous 2005-11-08T14:57:32Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#150ffdd4-7c40-4af2-9ddf-c5a7a4cf37ae 2005-11-08T14:06:24Z 2005-11-08T14:06:24Z

and i will admit that no matter how hot the guy, if he's wearin flip-flops i wont give him a second look.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-08T14:06:24Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#08b14aee-79a1-436e-af99-881e7eb6b681 2005-11-07T21:08:35Z 2005-11-07T21:08:35Z

i guess it is more about how my penis/subconscious has been conditioned, than the rationalization i gave in my first post. after all, i don't sit and reason through anything about a guy i see in clothes that turn me on; i just see him and get hard.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-07T21:08:35Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#806100db-1bfd-4bb5-8b19-546342ab1453 2005-11-05T18:27:00Z 2005-11-05T18:27:00Z

i think image gives a small nod to ones personality, but its not everything. for fucks sake i could dress up like dennis the menace if i wanted what does that say about me? and dont get me started on the poser thing

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-05T18:27:00Z ironrash http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#0c17ccc1-61cd-4a0f-aac5-dafac3029c26 2005-11-05T01:56:46Z 2005-11-05T01:56:46Z

Imaging is everything! Guess I'm just agreeing with previous posts, but the way a guy presents himself is the first foray into their mindset. You gotta own it though - posers are obvious, especially when you get a few personal messages under your belt! Guess I still look for a little "truth in advertising"...

ironrash 2005-11-05T01:56:46Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#8a13aea0-7ccb-413c-8bbc-f896614b1367 2005-11-04T06:21:08Z 2005-11-04T06:21:08Z

I guess that all depends on what they are made out of. Boots as ball-weight are definitely fun for all those involved. Try it with a friend - Today! ;)

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-04T06:21:08Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#b643a937-0557-4cb3-a6df-2e5737117727 2005-11-04T05:52:38Z 2005-11-04T05:52:38Z

are ball weights really clothing righteous ;)

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-04T05:52:38Z righteous http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#33747fe3-7fd6-48a3-bdb5-3e19a116bb27 2005-11-03T17:25:26Z 2005-11-03T17:25:26Z

i like to put my bro into cotton whites too small for him, make him wear em out, rip em off, twist em so theyre tighter, clothing as bondage equipment, tie the boots together, boots as ball weights, heh, theres my weekend plans in a nutshell

righteous 2005-11-03T17:25:26Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#4f10da0c-6000-4303-81da-db30441c2ea4 2005-11-03T15:29:04Z 2005-11-03T15:29:04Z

camo shorts, wife beaters, and boots are good fuck fatiuges

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-03T15:29:04Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#8783f860-47a5-4d1f-a4f1-53831c6d06e9 2005-11-03T14:03:54Z 2005-11-03T14:03:54Z

I like to have sex in clothes, just everyday streat wear.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-03T14:03:54Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#e846d96a-ede9-4d66-bfd8-ae92dce79a7c 2005-11-02T14:42:32Z 2005-11-02T14:42:32Z

A man after my own heart . Stormtrooper uniform , mmmmmmmmm

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-02T14:42:32Z righteous http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#bd5887ed-356d-44ca-be32-82516fb27b05 2005-11-02T14:40:10Z 2005-11-02T14:40:10Z

i want storm trooper uniforms!!! and a clown suit!

righteous 2005-11-02T14:40:10Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#c1e6fcc8-e0e6-413a-b7d8-ca2086b710b4 2005-11-02T14:26:18Z 2005-11-02T14:26:18Z

amen, thnks for bein there for our achin boners drub

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-02T14:26:18Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#a5841467-b1c4-4bbc-b75b-e23bba2d04fb 2005-11-02T02:26:53Z 2005-11-02T02:26:53Z

This is all part of the reason I like to create the illustrations that I make... finding out what makes other people tick, even if at first it seems very surface oriented, and in turn expanding my horizons. That's one big reason. The other is porn isn't that great and I have needs. *smirk*

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-02T02:26:53Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#3a6c653b-a44f-4fa0-9f3d-8ed3d45894d5 2005-11-01T21:41:47Z 2005-11-01T21:41:47Z

i can understand that, specialy with you as a bed buddy.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-11-01T21:41:47Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#c07efe8c-1e32-42dd-adc9-4c8f2d79eca2 2005-10-30T04:38:36Z 2005-10-30T04:38:36Z

I have a big suit/dress sock fetish . So a man in a suit , or in various degrees of undress with suit pieces is an automatic hard on for me . Had an ex who got very turned on by , and liked me being aggressive when , I was wearing only a wife beater .

$item.owner.firstName 2005-10-30T04:38:36Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#8427b373-8a6c-4b08-a6fc-79d268125295 2005-10-25T23:55:06Z 2005-10-25T23:55:06Z

amen, thou i do like shearing there levis off

$item.owner.firstName 2005-10-25T23:55:06Z Zeitzeuge http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#33eee7ed-f7d3-44fa-b520-096e59edfd34 2005-10-25T16:23:57Z 2005-10-25T16:23:57Z

I always notice a face first. How they handle themselves. A laugh. What they're wearing and HOW they wear it. Part of the fun of being with someone in my opinion was peeling of those layers of clothing, one...by.........one.

Zeitzeuge 2005-10-25T16:23:57Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#49919171-bf6e-4b87-a018-4e3164da897e 2005-10-25T15:08:47Z 2005-10-25T15:08:47Z

i always notice the clothes and hair first (god thats shallow) but i dont think it says anything about ones personality. ive met super flaming skttles dressed like lumber jacks, and prissy lookin bitches who could snap me in half. point, i wanna guy that can throw on a dirty ass white shirt and pair of plaid boxers and still be just as sexy as when we was all dolled up (thou he better still have his boots on)

$item.owner.firstName 2005-10-25T15:08:47Z righteous http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#a00dc295-b070-436a-b3fe-cd3514cbf6a8 2005-10-23T19:16:01Z 2005-10-23T19:16:01Z

absolutely, what a fella dresses like tells part of the story of who he is, are the blue jeans 501s or 300 dollar designer jobs, band t-shirt or HRC polo? with us pervy rocker skin types of fags the significance of the clothes is intensified, the grain of the leather, the weight of the boots and whatever messages the boots send about blue collar, butch, leather, whatever it is for you and him. theres a purely aesthetic aspect, the excitement of more to be revealed, the feel of leather, denim, cotton, rubber. i tend to concentrate more on the social and cultural messages that are being communicated, skin punk anti-racist socialist... but those are all "fetishes" to me as well in a sense i reckon

righteous 2005-10-23T19:16:01Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#92d94037-6d8b-4f54-bc62-e14bac954edb 2005-10-23T17:34:26Z 2005-10-23T17:34:26Z

All else equal, I'd rather see pics of - or have sex with - guys who are as fully clothed as the action involved allows. My first and probably strongest kinks all center on clothing. I've got a friend who mocks my porn folder, saying "if it doesn't show genitalia, it ain't porn" - and a big fraction of the stuff I jerk off to doesn't show dicks or even have sexual acts. The first thing I notice about a guy is his face, but the second is probably his shoes (or, better, boots) - I get preconceptions about people based on footwear all the time (not saying that's a good thing, but it's how I seem to be wired). My sexual tastes are pretty strongly connected to music subcultures, and clothing is something that people in those subcultures use to identify themselves to each other. Not always, and I'm not gonna consider someone "less punk" because he doesn't have the required number of studs in his jacket or whatever, but the association is frequent enough that it made some pathways in my brain. *This* is associated with *that*; *that* makes me horny, so now *this* makes me horny. Pure Pavlov. Okay, I've got more to say on the subject - especially about the co-option of dress styles by gays - but I'd better do some apartment hunting while it's still office hours. More later.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-10-23T17:34:26Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#bb2915d3-43d7-4b59-9c29-bd1a769bb924 2005-10-23T07:02:56Z 2005-10-23T07:02:56Z

That's exactly what I'm saying. You hit the nail on the head there. It's the information that's given, the signals, the story... it's a reoccuring theme in my work and I think for the people who enjoy it there is some truth in that. I was wondering people's thoughts on the subject.

$item.owner.firstName 2005-10-23T07:02:56Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#eb643b1a-f3af-4008-9047-cfdf85f17b7c 2005-10-23T06:55:40Z 2005-10-23T06:55:40Z

I'm not really sure what you're asking, but I'm drunk so I'll throw my two cents in anyway. I have always been more interested in pictures of clothed (or at least partially clothed) guys than in pictures of naked guys. Clothing is language and label and context; in still pictures it adds a huge amount of information about the people involved that naked pics just can't convey. Haircuts, being something that people can intentionally choose about themselves, fall into the same category. And shared esthetics correlate well enough with potential friendship/intimacy that it's worked pretty well for me for years. I dunno where I was going with this, I need a smoke. Maybe this was enough? Anyone know what I'm saying here?

$item.owner.firstName 2005-10-23T06:55:40Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/586244ab-777e-4c1d-b57a-e235bcb6860b#7a21285b-fa10-4aae-9265-92411dd4d4b4 2005-10-23T06:05:35Z 2005-10-23T06:05:35Z

I've noticed with the past few subjects here on this Tribe have been toward clothing. I know that in my artwork, as well as in my *ahem* personal time, that what a guy wears and the various states of partial undress really lends itself to a narrative/scene/etc. I was wondering about your thoughts and opinions on this being the curious bastard that I am. Discuss :)

$item.owner.firstName 2005-10-23T06:05:35Z