Tribe.net. Local Connections $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#938cbbe7-1dc8-4ff9-8014-335bf438234c 2006-12-23T03:33:43Z 2004-12-29T02:43:25Z

oops- i forgot to specify that these questions were for zeitzeuge.

$item.owner.firstName 2004-12-29T02:43:25Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#df981215-23f0-4456-96f5-bf836a8d18ba 2006-12-23T03:33:33Z 2004-12-29T02:41:24Z

"The think about your genre' is that there are other artist that do something a tad bit similar." can you drop a few names of artists and maybe some websites that show examples of their art? i haven't seen any erotic art featuring skaters and punks before viewing drub's site, not even in many "punks-who-are-queer" zines and i would totally appreciate seeing more. thanks- i was starting to think that only drub and me were the only ones who did erotic art featuring queer men who were not mainstream or tom's of finland-ish or the type of stuff printed in meatmen comics. oh, and check out the tribe on my list- 666. while satanism probably isn't many gay men's thing, it does offer a lot of interesting angel and devil all male erotica that i found interesting. dark fantasy i guess.

$item.owner.firstName 2004-12-29T02:41:24Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#fb680581-9309-4cf4-bff9-b7351d44810e 2006-12-23T03:33:18Z 2005-05-15T21:39:12Z

Well you know Drub that I admire your work. I taught art for most of my career and I recognize its honesty and unpretentiousness. I think you are a really keen observer of reality and that coupled with your skill and craftsmanship in presentation gives a great feeling that you are working within values that people really understand. I used to hate it when students would say "But I haven't found my style yet" to which I would reply "Oh well thank goodnss, at least there is some hope for you " Style is something that others viewing should be aware of more than yourself. I think a Drub drawing will always look like a Drub drawing whatever the subject matter. Your soul is in every mark. Yes your erotic fantasy work is exciting but so is your portrayal of everyday folk and you bring these into focus in a very refreshing and non-threstening way. There is nothing more fantastic than reality !

$item.owner.firstName 2005-05-15T21:39:12Z mike http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#e775e5a5-d000-4c4d-8bca-232c93fb8700 2006-12-22T22:42:51Z 2006-12-22T22:42:51Z

hey drub! i was into bmx riding up till about 17y.o. so I think since sk8ers are hot anyway,how about a sk8er sneaker servicing a hot bmx dirt rider.even there socks need loving too.

mike 2006-12-22T22:42:51Z Erik http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#b103f872-ca43-4a98-9e2e-fc1d250d4bc2 2004-12-31T17:49:38Z 2004-12-31T17:49:38Z

I love revisitations.

Erik 2004-12-31T17:49:38Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#d1d1edea-7818-476e-b494-e3aa448fcc18 2004-12-30T00:38:02Z 2004-12-30T00:38:02Z

I guess, something to add would be that being in San Diego - at least for me people watching is a great way to take mental snapshots for later as there are so many guys I've seen since moving here that are either straight out of drawings I've done or have been stored for later use. I definitely would love to make the San Diego piece something, without getting too high-falutin', that definitely sets the scene and feel of the city from my eyes. Something I've always prided myself in is nothing in my art can be seen as pretentious. I pull no punches, I'm just drawing sex. I don't read very much into my work and don't think it's changing the world - I'm just conquering men's pants one boner at a time. ;)

$item.owner.firstName 2004-12-30T00:38:02Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#3d1703e1-ead4-4ad1-9667-bfe686caa413 2004-12-30T00:31:36Z 2004-12-30T00:31:36Z

In interviews I always try to say that I'm not really doing anything new, it's just from my point of view. This thread has me going through all my old sketchbooks lying around with work I never acted on, inked in, or forgot about. I found a bunch of devils, some satyrs, robots, and sexual mutants that I just thought too cheezy at the time, but maybe it's time to revisit these?

$item.owner.firstName 2004-12-30T00:31:36Z Albert http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#9cf6f8e4-baeb-4682-917f-857257f9e723 2004-12-29T21:22:05Z 2004-12-29T21:22:05Z

The one thing I was going to add, you've already touched upon Drub. Your images and themes are impeccable. But, I personally longed for more narrative--more interconnectivity between the images and characters. Not per se a story or theme, but history. Your concept of a triptych fits that nicely. On your San Diego concept, perhaps a series following a couple of characters in their varying kinks and scenes--but they would keep the overall flavor and landmarks of the city? As I get older, I find my own sexual interests changing and developing. Things I used to not think of as necessarily erotic, now are. The way fetishism and sexual taste are fluid, that fluidity would be an interesting theme in your art.

Albert 2004-12-29T21:22:05Z Zeitzeuge http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#4c9c6f08-9bd1-4d2d-81c2-bdd5d69234bc 2004-12-29T14:12:26Z 2004-12-29T14:12:26Z

I definately believe that Drubs punks and skaters is unique. Never said it wasn't. I'm not up on all the current artist names who dabble in Erotic. I'm just saying that over the course of the past 10 years, in publications or shows, I've seen work that is similar. Honestly, nothing is 100% new. We take bits and pieces here and there, throw in some imagination, creativity and create something from our soul. But at some point in history, you can find comparisons. I'm sorry I don't have specific names, dates, places or publications. I just felt that his Fantasy was such a diversion from other erotic artist, graphic artist or cartoonist that I've seen and would like to see more. Damn, being an artist myself I haven't sat and had critiques or discussions about art since I was in graduate school. I think I almost started breaking out in a sweat when I had to defend my words. LOL

Zeitzeuge 2004-12-29T14:12:26Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#142f993e-6779-454c-ae57-7d47cb13c065 2004-12-29T05:28:01Z 2004-12-29T05:28:01Z

I did do an illustration "Chemistry" for Freshmen Magazine. I'd love to do more in line with what my art in other magazines if the chance came around. Any choice mags you guys think I should approach?

$item.owner.firstName 2004-12-29T05:28:01Z Erik http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#0e39b64b-d7ec-40f1-98cc-d675fa4377c9 2004-12-28T23:30:37Z 2004-12-28T23:30:37Z

Have you ever done illustrations for an erotic story?

Erik 2004-12-28T23:30:37Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#764f1919-48af-42ab-8c88-eea0f59aaf31 2004-12-28T22:40:29Z 2004-12-28T22:40:29Z

Wow. That's a very interesting take on the portfolio... and you are lighting the fire under my butt to put the new stuff up by saying this. I have so much work just sitting on disk. ;) It's funny, people always have different reaction to a section or specific piece they gravitate towards. There is more fantasy stuff on the way - definitely! I'm now trying to develop a more of a narrative to my work, more so than there is now. Before, the work seemed so much about the moment or what was going on between the two (or more) guys and I want to get away from that. I'm working on a series (there is one in the gallery on here in this tribe) that's based on spanking. The client is great and he has a great mind so it's fun to work with his kinks and the story just pours out of that. In "working class" the last 3 images in the gallery are a triptych and hang in the same frame. This is hanging above a repeat clients bed right now. I want to do more pieces like this and I'm thinking about doing another based on San Diego - a car wash scene, a tattoo shop, and a taco stand or surf shop or something... still thinking that one up. :) As always, the stuff I show is very much within my vision and aesthetic but it's good to hear that you like the fantasy stuff and want to see more of that.

$item.owner.firstName 2004-12-28T22:40:29Z Zeitzeuge http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#5ef65bc1-8911-42ba-8245-a30233b4b541 2004-12-28T19:36:52Z 2004-12-28T19:36:52Z

After viewing your artwork on numerous occasions, I was more interested in your fantasy work almost more then your skaters, working class, etc. The think about your genre' is that there are other artist that do something a tad bit similar. It's making your work stand apart. I felt like your fantasy stuff set yourself apart from any other erotic artist. Your skaters and punks had a definately "drub" feel to them. The fantasy was more unique then anything else. Your work also has a story feel to them. I can picture images leading up to one of your single images, or images that would follow. Ever do multiple images of one group? I'm not talking comic strip though.

Zeitzeuge 2004-12-28T19:36:52Z $item.owner.firstName http://druberotic.tribe.net/thread/9f85693c-3c34-4720-95dc-c72108d9c1bc#dd7eaf5c-4441-4256-bc76-130ae6b07d34 2004-12-23T06:51:41Z 2004-12-23T06:51:41Z

If you guys have any cool ideas that are in line with my artwork, let's hear 'em. I like hearing about what makes people tick.

$item.owner.firstName 2004-12-23T06:51:41Z